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Where the trades, distribution, and real business meet. No hype. No fluff. Just honest conversations about scaling businesses, ownership, and turning hard work into profit.

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Where Hard Work Meets Real Wealth

Hosted by Rene' Jones and Robert Casinover, Pipe Dreams to Profits dives into plumbing, warehousing, logistics, and blue-collar industries that quietly build real wealth.

Whether you're a plumber scaling your operation, a distributor navigating supply chains, or an entrepreneur eyeing the trades — this show gives you the real playbook. From tech disruption to ownership strategies, we cover what actually moves the needle.

Plumbing & Trades
Distribution & Logistics
Business Scaling
Ownership & Wealth

Meet the Voices Behind the Show

Two industry insiders bringing real-world experience from finance, tech, and the trades to every conversation.

Robert Casinover

Robert Casinover

Co-Founder, The Build

Robert Casinover has built a career doing what most people never attempt — bridging the gap between high-level corporate finance and the boots-on-the-ground world of the trades. After over a decade of financial leadership at powerhouse organizations including PwC, IBM, A+E Networks, and Interbrand, Robert made a bold pivot and co-founded The Build in January 2020, a technology platform purpose-built for General Contractors, Plumbers, Electricians, Masons, and DIYers.

Armed with an MBA in Finance from Long Island University and a background in FP&A, business operations, and strategic growth, Robert brings a rare Wall Street mindset to an industry that has long been underserved by both technology and financial sophistication. His experience completing the Newchip Accelerator program further sharpened his edge as a startup founder navigating one of the most complex and resilient sectors in the economy.

On Pipe Dreams to Profits, Robert channels his unique blend of corporate financial acumen and trades industry insight to help business owners think bigger, operate smarter, and build companies that last. He's proof that the trades aren't just a career path — they're a serious business opportunity.

Rene' Jones

Rene' Jones

Trades Industry Veteran & Distribution Expert

Rene Jones is a seasoned veteran of the plumbing, wholesale distribution, and supply chain industries — and one of the most passionate voices in the trades today. With deep operational knowledge spanning plumbing distribution, warehousing, and logistics, Rene has spent his career at the intersection of where real work gets done and real money gets made.

Rene brings an insider's perspective to every conversation, whether that's breaking down the shift from traditional distribution models to online channels, unpacking workforce challenges, or helping trade business owners think more strategically about scaling. He's not just talking theory — he's lived the day-to-day realities of the blue-collar world and understands what it actually takes to run and grow a trades-based business.

On Pipe Dreams to Profits, Rene's mission is simple: elevate the trades. He's committed to helping plumbers, distributors, warehouse operators, and contractors embrace modern technology and smarter business practices — without losing the grit and craftsmanship that make this industry great.

Catch Up on the Conversation

Real talk about the trades, tech, and building businesses that last. New episodes drop regularly.

Pricing & Inventory Strategist Lee Hamer on What Plumbing Distributors Get Wrong | Part 2
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Pricing & Inventory Strategist Lee Hamer on What Plumbing Distributors Get Wrong | Part 2

10/10/2026 · 113 views
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You Won’t Believe These Plumbing & Warehouse War Stories | Customers, OSHA Fails & Business Lessons
93m 33s

You Won’t Believe These Plumbing & Warehouse War Stories | Customers, OSHA Fails & Business Lessons

09/20/2026 · 78 views
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Your Plumbing Business Might Be Broke — Your Distributor Is Just Hiding It
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Your Plumbing Business Might Be Broke — Your Distributor Is Just Hiding It

09/19/2026 · 755 views
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Should You Buy a Plumbing Business? What Nobody Tells You Before You Invest
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Should You Buy a Plumbing Business? What Nobody Tells You Before You Invest

09/05/2026 · 557 views
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Q&A With Robert & Rene: Business, Money, Technology & Lessons From the Trades | Part 2
56m 38s

Q&A With Robert & Rene: Business, Money, Technology & Lessons From the Trades | Part 2

08/30/2026 · 217 views
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Construction Tech Is Already Here | Zack on the Future of the Industry - Part 2
43m 42s

Construction Tech Is Already Here | Zack on the Future of the Industry - Part 2

08/14/2026 · 321 views
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Why Construction and Distribution Are Still Behind on Technology | Featuring Zack
40m 25s

Why Construction and Distribution Are Still Behind on Technology | Featuring Zack

08/08/2026 · 380 views
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What It’s Really Like Being a Young Plumber: The Rest of the Story | Part 3
37m 51s

What It’s Really Like Being a Young Plumber: The Rest of the Story | Part 3

08/01/2026 · 214 views
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Would They Become Plumbers Again? Two Young Plumbers Give Honest Answers. Part 2
34m 35s

Would They Become Plumbers Again? Two Young Plumbers Give Honest Answers. Part 2

07/25/2026 · 222 views
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Would They Become Plumbers Again? Two Young Plumbers Give Honest Answers. Part 1
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Would They Become Plumbers Again? Two Young Plumbers Give Honest Answers. Part 1

07/18/2026 · 305 views
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AI & Automation in Construction: The Future Is Closer Than You Think | Part 2
48m 13s

AI & Automation in Construction: The Future Is Closer Than You Think | Part 2

07/11/2026 · 138 views
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Why Aren’t There More African Americans in Plumbing & Trades? | Part 3
26m 34s

Why Aren’t There More African Americans in Plumbing & Trades? | Part 3

05/21/2026 · 215 views
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Why Aren’t There More African Americans in Plumbing & Trades? | Part 2
25m 37s

Why Aren’t There More African Americans in Plumbing & Trades? | Part 2

05/11/2026 · 297 views
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Bring Robert & Rene' to Your Stage

Robert Casinover and Rene' Jones are available for speaking engagements at trade businesses, industry conferences, and corporate events. Their talks focus on practical strategies for leveraging warehouse technology and project management tools to increase profitability.

Whether it's a keynote, workshop, or panel discussion, Robert and Rene' deliver actionable insights that your team can implement immediately — no fluff, no theory, just real-world strategies that move the bottom line.

  • Integrating warehouse technology to streamline operations and cut costs
  • Leveraging project management tools for better job tracking and profitability
  • Scaling a trades business without sacrificing quality or margins
  • Bridging the gap between traditional trades and modern tech solutions
  • Building real wealth in blue-collar industries
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Be a Guest on the Show

Got a story about building in the trades? Scaling a distribution business? Disrupting blue-collar industries with tech? We want to hear from you.

We're looking for operators, founders, and industry veterans who can share real insights — not theories.

  • Share your expertise with a growing audience
  • Connect with other industry leaders
  • Get featured across our social channels
  • Help shape the future of the trades